Washington Reporter, SF Chronicle
https://www.sfchronicle.com/news/article/Videos-start-replacing-interpreters-at-14103649.php
Videos start replacing interpreters at immigration court hearings
WASHINGTON — The Trump administration began the process of eliminating in-person interpreters at immigrants’ initial court hearings Wednesday, replacing them with a video advising people of their rights.
Advocates who observed court proceedings said the video was confusing and difficult to understand, and said they feared the new system would not give immigrants a fair shot in cases that decide whether they will be deported.
The new system went into place at immigration courts in New York and Miami, according to multiple sources. Details were sketchy, as the policy was applied only to immigrants who were not represented by lawyers, meaning that in some instances there were no observers in the courtroom.
The immigration court in San Francisco is not among those where the videos are being used in a pilot program, but eventually interpreters are expected to be replaced there as well.
The Chronicle was first to report the new policy, shortly after immigration judges were told about it in June. Some judges have since raised concerns, and their union hopes to negotiate changes with the Justice Department, which runs the courts.
The department says replacing interpreters with videos at initial court appearances will save money. The main purpose of such initial hearings is to inform immigrants of their rights and schedule further proceedings.
After the video is shown, immigrants who want to ask questions of the judge will have no way of doing so unless they have a bilingual attorney on hand. If they don’t, judges will have to try to track down an interpreter who happens to be free or use a telephone interpreting service.
Advocates say the new system is likely to lead to confusion among some immigrants, who might miss their next hearing as a result. Missing a hearing can be grounds for deportation.
Witnesses who were in court in New York on Wednesday said the video was roughly 20 minutes long and featured Christopher Santoro, the principal deputy chief immigration judge of the immigration courts. As he spoke in English, the video was dubbed in Spanish with Spanish subtitles. After the video, immigrants received an 11-page FAQ handout in Spanish.
Joan Racho-Jansen, an organizer with New Sanctuary Coalition, which provides non-attorney volunteers to immigrants, said the video was slickly produced but difficult to understand even for Spanish speakers with whom she watched. She also said it spent considerable time on the immigrants’ right to accept “voluntary departure” from the U.S.
Immigrants in the courtroom “were either asleep or very, very frightened because they were saying things (in the video) that were scary,” Racho-Jansen said. “We had (experienced) volunteers who spoke Spanish and they just kept shaking their heads and felt disturbed by language that was far too confusing for them to understand.”
She said the video was full of “legalese” that would go over the heads of even fluent Spanish speakers — and many Central American immigrants speak indigenous languages and little or no Spanish.
The handout, viewed by The Chronicle, was clear but technical, with a volume of information that could challenge people from rural foreign countries who have no familiarity with courts.
“I asked the interpreters what they thought (of the video), and they said it was very confusing, that the person who was dubbing occasionally couldn’t pronounce or didn’t understand the word they were saying so they said it incorrectly,” Racho-Jansen said.
She said interpreters were present in the New York courtrooms and that judges used them after the video. It’s not clear if the Justice Department scheduled them to be there or if they were in court for other reasons.
The department declined to comment and refused The Chronicle’s request to view the video.
San Francisco Chronicle staff writer Alexei Koseff contributed to this report.
Tal Kopan is The San Francisco Chronicle’s Washington correspondent. Email: tal.kopan@sfchronicle.com Twitter: @talkopan
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The continuing denigration of Due Process by EOIR is appalling. This time, in addition to the real victims, the migrants who are forced to use this rancid system, EOIR is taking a “cheap shot” at the professional interpreters who have helped the foundering agency keep its head above water for years.
Sorry to see Principal Deputy Chief Judge Chris Santoro participating in this scam. Chris is someone I always admired and who was always very helpful and supportive to me during my career.
Where is Congress on this ugly and unnecesasry mess? Certainly, requiring EOIR to conform to Due Process by providing live interpretation ought to be a “bipartisan no-brainer.”
PWS
07-18-19